Pippa Kelly …

In my second vlog I share my passion for music and dementia with my childhood friend and distinguished broadcaster Sue Saville.   Join us as we chat about the final precious moments I shared with my mum, why music has such power to connect with people even when their dementia is very advanced and how wonderful organisations and projects are springing up to enhance the lives of those with the condition and their families through music.   I loved talking about this topic – and once again the video is best watched in full screen by clicking on the small four arrow icon, bottom right.   The full transcript is set out below. 

PIPPA: Hello, I’m Pippa Kelly. Some of you may know me through my dementia blogs and articles and in this series of podcasts I’d like to talk to you about what’s happening in the dementia world; I’m going to focus on very best practice and some of the inspirational individuals and organisations I meet along the way.

Today I’m really pleased because I’m going to be talking about one of my great passions: the power of music to connect with people in even the most advanced stages of dementia, and I’m delighted once again to introduce my friend Sue Saville, who’s here to talk to me today. Sue is a very old friend of mine – we’ve known each other for far too many years to mention. She’s also a very respected and distinguished journalist and broadcaster and was for many years ITN’s health correspondent.  So Sue, it’s over to you to ask me some questions about this, one of my really great passions, music and dementia. 

SUE: Well Pippa, it’s lovely to be here with you again and particularly to hear about this passion you have for music and dementia. I understand there’s a personal story behind that?

PIPPA: Yes. Absolutely.  And once again it relates to my mum, who lived with dementia for the last decade of her life. My mum died on Christmas Day a few years ago now and on the Christmas Eve, I received a call to say that she was very ill in her nursing home in Dorking and I should come down from London to see her.   It was Christmas Eve, I was really busy and to be perfectly honest, I nearly didn’t go.  Of course I did go and as I was driving down to Surrey I suddenly remembered that we could listen to the Service of Nine Lessons and Carols from King’s College, Cambridge together. This was probably one of my mum’s favourite things, ever. She loved Christmas.  I arrived in time and turned on the radio. 

Anyone who knows this service will know that it always starts with Once In Royal David’s City, with a lone chorister singing the first verse.   By then, my mum had, for about two months, been lying in bed, immobile, sleeping the whole time, with her eyes shut.  But as the first notes of Once In Royal David’s City came onto the radio she opened her eyes. That’s all she did. She just looked at the white, painted ceiling of her nursing home room but it was very powerful for me. It was very moving because there was a definite connection.   Something definitely happened deep inside her.  We sat there for the hour and listened to the service together and then the following day, Christmas Day, I received a call quite late to say that I needed to come down again.  I drove down as quickly as I could but I arrived just a few minutes too late. My mum had already died, which was terrible. But at least I had this fantastic memory of the time we’d spent together the day before, which was so powerful.  And I’m eternally grateful for that.  Of course at the time I didn’t realise that, quite unwittingly, I’d done a very good thing by listening to music that meant so much to my mum. I had no idea. It was just by luck.

SUE:  Why do you think that this great connection is made with music when other connections in the brain have been lost?

PIPPA:  Well, it’s very interesting Sue.   Two years after my mum died I set up my blog and I began to become far more immersed in the dementia world.  And actually it was thanks to you Sue – I don’t think you know this – because the first outing I had as a blogger was to an event at the House of Lords where Sally Magnusson (the daughter of the late Magnus Magnusson, former presenter of Mastermind) was launching her book, “Where Memories Go”.  In it she talks about her mum Maimie Baird who always loved to sing and the fact that, right up to the very end of her life with dementia Maimie she was able to sing all the words of the songs.  Sally researched why this was and in her book (which is a beautifully written memoir of her mum) she talks about going to visit the late Oliver Sacks, who puts it very well.  He says that the past, which is irrecoverable in any other way, is embedded in music as if in amber, which is a wonderful way of putting it. 

There are a number of reasons why music connects so powerfully.  It’s a bit like a tip-of-the-tongue moment because music connects to various different parts of the brain and there are so many different elements of music – there’s the rhythm, the cadence, the lyrics, the tone etc.  And because of all these different elements, various parts of the brain are used,many neurons are firing and then a connection is made, as it is when you’re thinking of a name and people are firing questions at you – and suddenly that tip-of-the-tongue moment will come and you remember.  And that is what happens with music.  In addition, music connects to the bits of the brain that are the last to be destroyed in somebody with dementia, so they are still working. 

SUE:  And others have taken up this theme of music and its benefits for those with dementia, I believe?  And you’ve come across some of those and work with them?

PIPPA:  Yes, several actually.   One that springs to mind is called Turtle Key Arts.   They use all the arts but they have one sector that is Turtle Song, and I went along to see how it works.  It’s extraordinary because really high level musicians are involved.  They work in collaboration with English National Touring Opera and with the Royal College of Music – so at extremely high levels – and these musicians join with people with dementia and their families and carers, and over the course of 10 weeks they work in collaboration to create a song.  They choose a topic such as holidays, summer, winter or Christmas – but whatever the topic is they all work altogether.  They meet and create a song and then over the 10 weeks they will refine it and then they perform it in front of quite a big audience.  I couldn’t really get my head around the idea until I saw it in action, but it is absolutely collaborative.   The people with dementia contribute just as many ideas about what should be put in the song and the way it should go as the musicians.

SUE: Now, I understand you have a bit of a mission yourself to use music in a way that can really bring benefit to those with dementia and perhaps also other older people, via the radio?

PIPPA:  Yes. Well, this wasn’t my idea. It was at another event at the House of Lords (I don’t spend my entire life at the House of Lords!)  But this was another dementia event to do with music and dementia, and the guest speaker this time with the soprano Leslie Garrett, who gave a wonderful speech. She is patron of a dementia and music charity called The Lost Chord (her auntie Joan had dementia) and at the end of her speech (which was brilliant, she kept bursting into song), as a throwaway remark, Lesley asked if anybody present remembered Singing Together, a radio programme on the BBC. 

SUE:  Which we are far too young to remember ourselves!

PIPPA: Yes, quite.  But, well sadly, I’m not too old and I did remember it.   It was before we met Sue.  I was about eight or nine and I was at school at a convent.  I’ve researched this – I couldn’t remember all about it – but it turns out that on a Monday morning at about 11 o’clock the nun would tell us that we were all going to listen to Singing Together, and she would turn on the radio.  The presenter at the time was William Appleby and he would say a bit about the song (the songs tended to be simple songs with rousing choruses), then he’d sing a couple of bars and tell us to sing it.  So we all sang it – and I can really remember doing that.   And the point was that the programme was introduced way back in September 1939 at the very outbreak of World War II on the BBC’s Schools Service to bring together children who’d been evacuated at the beginning of the war.  The idea was – as the title says – singing together would bring together evacuated children who had been displaced from their families.  Of course, I knew none of this at the time, when I was just eight or nine, but I do remember that sense of community, that you felt that you were all singing together and that all over the country children your age were singing the same words of the same song at the same time.  There was something very sort of “coming together” about it.  And Lesley Garrett’s idea was the BBC should reintroduce the radio program, this time for older people and those with dementia, and I thought that it was a brilliant idea.  Its brilliance lies in its simplicity and I love the echoes of people being sort of displaced from their homes into care homes with the evacuee children during the war. 

SUE:  And they would be the generation who remembers that of course?

PIPPA: The might well be, absolutely.  But the other great thing about the idea is that because it’s a radio programme it doesn’t have to apply to just one sector of the community.   Anybody could listen – it’s for all generations. All you’ve got to do is lean out and press the button on a radio.   Many care homes don’t have very good Wi-Fi and Lesley’s idea is just so simple.  You could have groups coming together, you could have an activities coordinator in a care home making sure that everybody listens or you could just have an old man in his home who wants to listen to the radio and puts his radio on, or you could have mum in a kitchen with a young child who wants to sing at the same time, and they might know that granny up in Derbyshire, who is in a care home or in her home, is also listening. It’s a fantastic connector. 

SUE: And perhaps those benefits could be brought to a wider community, perhaps through something called social prescribing?

PIPPA:  Yes. It’s absolutely social describing.   And this is particularly relevant to dementia because of course, there is no cure. So despite the fact that pharmaceutical companies have spent billions of pounds trying to find a cure, there’s not been much progress, even in terms of mitigating the symptoms.  For some people at some points of dementia, some drugs might just slow it down a little bit, but there’s no cure so dementia is a condition for which social prescribing is absolutely brilliant – whether it be through gardening, the arts, poetry or reminiscence work, but particularly music because there are these neurological reasons why music is such powerful connector. So I’m very pleased that in the current Health Secretary Matt Hancock we do seem to have somebody who believes in social prescribing, who understands the value of other ways of going about things that don’t involve drugs, which is great in terms of dementia.  And yes, if we can push forward and use music in a way that will really help people with dementia I think that will be absolutely wonderful.  We do seem, hopefully, to be doing this, which is absolutely great.   The Government have some other distractions on their mind at the moment but I’m really hopeful about this because I do think that traction is being gained now, so that’s very good.

SUE: Well if I know you Pippa, perseverance is your middle name and with you behind this, the idea should really get some traction. I saw that perseverance when you’ve got your book Invisible Ink through to publication and I’m sure you’ll take this all the way.   It’s been absolutely lovely hearing about this passion and there are others you’d like to talk about as well. I understand?

PIPPA:  Yes. Absolutely. There’s so much to talk about.  For my next podcast I’m going to talk about some of the inspirational individuals I meet along the way with my dementia work.  It’s interesting because often, when people hear what I do, they think it must be very depressing, but actually it’s quite the reverse.  My work can be very uplifting and inspirational – and that’s what I’m going to talk about next time.

SUE: I really look forward to hearing about those individuals. Thank you so much.

Welcome to my very first video podcast – or vlog!  It’s the introductory episode of an occasional series and in it I chat to my childhood friend, distinguished broadcaster and journalist Sue Saville, about my family’s dementia story.   (Best viewed, if you can bear it, in full screen, by clicking on the four small arrows to the left of the word “Vimeo” in bottom right hand corner). 

And once you’ve watched it, do feel free to leave me a comment or suggest who or what (in the way of dementia organisations, charities, social enterprises etc) you might like me to talk to, or about, in future. 

And here is the transcript of my chat with Sue: 

PIPPA: Hello, my name is Pippa Kelly and some of you may know me through my dementia blogs and articles and in this series of podcasts I’d like to talk to you about what’s going on in the dementia world, about best practice,and some of the really inspirational and uplifting stories that I cover in my blogs and articles.

I know that it’s extremely sad that, despite the fact that Alzheimer’s was actually discovered well over a hundred years ago, and despite the fact that pharmaceutical companies have spent millions of pounds trying to find a cure for dementia, as yet very little progress has been made and there is very little medication that  slows down the symptoms of dementia – or, there are one or two drugs that do so if taken at certain times by certain individuals.   But – and this is important and this is the good news – there are so many ways in which the lives of those with dementia and their loved ones can be enhanced, and it’s those ways that I’m going to concentrate on in my podcasts.

For the first one I’d like to tell you a little bit of background about myself and why I became so interested in dementia, which was because of my mum Kay Kelly who for the last decade of her life lived with vascular dementia. 

I’m delighted to say that here today to talk to me about my mum and my family, and all the experiences that we went through with mum’s dementia – and what set me off on this journey – is a very old friend of mine called Sue Saville.  Sue is a distinguished journalist and broadcaster; she worked as ITN’s medical correspondent for many years.  But today she’s here because she’s a very old friend of mine and she knew my mum, my family and the house, Robinwood, where we all grew up, which is very integral to my mum’s dementia story  Sue is here today to put me on the spot, talk to me a bit and fire questions at me.  So, hello Sue and thank you very much for coming. 

SUE: Thank you Pippa.  I’m delighted to join you, and having known you all these years and known your family, it’s been quite a journey for you and for your writing.  I was delighted when you won an award for your dementia writing.  And so, it all started with your mum?

PIPPA: Yes, it started with mum and it really began in the early 1990s when her behaviour – she’s always been slightly eccentric I expect you remember Sue – but this eccentricity started to become much more pronounced.  The main thing was that mum refused to move from our house, Robinwood.  Mum came from a very poor background and she loved this house; it was, much to her delight, detached, though it was very modest, with three bedrooms.  But mum refused to move even when it became apparent that because of dad’s health – he had a triple heart bypass aged 78 – that they had to move.  The house was built on a very steep slope with gardens that pitched down to the River Mole.  But mum just refused.   I have two older siblings and when dad became so ill that it was dangerous for him to remain at Robinwood, we children decided it was time to take matters into our hands and come up with a plan to get our parents out of the house.  It was a heart-breaking plan and because I had Power of Attorney, I had to do the wicked deed.   The plan was that I would have to sell mum’s adored Robinwood without her consent or knowledge – I had to sell the house from under her.

SUE: That must have been heart-breaking for yourself, for your whole family, but particularly for you.

PIPPA: It was shockingly terrible.  The sale of Robinwood was to be the beginning of ten really difficult years for me and my family, but the weekend that I’m about to tell you about was hardest of all. 

We decided that my sister would invite our parents down to stay with her and her family in Somerset – something we knew mum that would be only too happy to do.  But the sting in the tail was that when my sister brought our parents back up, she would drive them not to Robinwood but to this new, much more appropriate flat for them which, again using my Power of Attorney, I had bought in nearby Dorking.  

So it was that my sister picked up our parents one Thursday morning, then phoned me to say that the coast was clear and I could come down.  I drove down from London and – I remember this very well Sue – I walked through the front door of Robinwood and the house was still warm, my mum’s coffee cup was still on the kitchen table because of course she thought she was coming back.  I felt heavy with guilt – I remember this feeling of not being able to move virtually.   The only way to cope was to cut off my emotions and get on with what I had to do, which was to pack up this house which had been my home in our teenage years.  You remember it well Sue, we used to swim in the river in our teenage summers.  I had to pack up the house in a matter of hours.  So I just chucked into black bin bags – unlooked at, unopened – the contents of drawers, cupboards and wardrobes.  I resent the fact that I had to do this because I later realised that dementia robbed me not only of my mum but of a chance to say a proper goodbye to my childhood home.  My brother arrived from Ireland later that day to help me.  The following morning the removal lorries arrived and took what furniture would fit into the new flat, which – on the doctor’s advice – we set up to look as familiar and comforting as we could for mum, to make it as easy as possible for her to make this difficult transition.

SUE: That must have been a really horrible scar for your family and desperately painful for your father, your family, yourself and your siblings?

PIPPA: It was, and when mum came back to that flat she refused to go in, she had a sort of hysterical breakdown or, to put it another way, her dementia, until then staved off by being in a familiar home for 38 years, tipped her over the edge and she ended up having to go into hospital – this is very common with dementia if there is a sudden shock such as the death of a spouse or moving home.  Mum’s admission to hospital was itself very traumatic for us as a family, particularly for me.  Because, by chance, mum already had a consultant’s appointment booked for the Monday and I warned him in advance of all that happened over the weekend.  He, in turn, warned me that if mum refused to be admitted to hospital voluntarily, he would have to use the Mental Health Act to section her. 

Mum and I entered the consultant’s room and to begin with mum seemed okay.  But when the consultant started to reason with her that she needed to leave Robinwood she began to get very agitated again, and when he said that he was stepping out to fetch a colleague I knew that this was his signal to me and he was about to section mum in front of my eyes.

SUE: Gosh, that must have been very frightening.

PIPPA:  It was, and I burst into tears.  I’d had a very difficult 72 hours.  Then an extraordinary thing happened because mum saw this and she said quite clearly.  “Well, I will go into hospital then because I can’t upset my baby”.  She always called me her baby because I was by far the youngest of her three children. 

SUE: So the tables were turned and she went back to looking after you.

PIPPA:  She did.  And it was the last time she did that because from then on I had to look after her – and dad. Mum went into hospital for six weeks and then she lived out the rest of her life (eight years) in two nursing homes. So that was how it all began for me and my family.

SUE: So why have you felt the need to write about this, to campaign as you have done so eloquently?

PIPPA:  I think because it became very apparent that what we had been through as a family was terrible, it was very scarring.  We’re an educated family, I’m an educated woman; luckily I had the time to do all of this and I knew that as a trained journalist I could – hopefully – write about it.  I thought about what had happened and I realised, looking back, that I had run a gamut of emotions over that terrible weekend – and as events unfolded.  The emotions that you go through as you look after someone with dementia are many, including terrible grief, which I’ve heard described as the never-ending grief of the dementia carer.  That’s a very good way of putting git because you watch the person you love disappearing, or changing, before your eyes.  Also there is frustration and anger because you can’t do anything to help these people you love – and also because people with dementia have different ways of doing things and it can be quite frustrating and you get angry and irritated and then, looking back, you feel guilty.  You feel guilty about everything.  Another, little-spoken of emotion, which I have talked about publicly is that of resentment.  Because your normal everyday life – in my case with my husband who has his own company so is very busy, my then very young daughter Emily, my writing as a freelance journalist, my socialising – was skewed out of its normal context because I was spending more and more time looking after my elderly parents. 

SUE: You’ve been very honest about those emotions.  When you spoke about it publicly what sort of feedback did you get from other people?

PIPPA:  They were thankful, I think.  They thanked me for saying that I felt resentful because they had never wanted to admit it even to themselves.  I realised when I set up my blog – blogging is a much more personal way of writing than writing for national newspapers – that I had to be honest.  There was absolutely no point writing about all this if you were going to paper over the cracks or pretend that everything was alright when it wasn’t.  You had to be quite brutally honest about it.

SUE: But you could perhaps only do all this once your mother had eventually passed away because then the grief that you described, when she was disappearing before your eyes, was fading and you were finally able to have that closure and move on with the writing?

PIPPA: Yes, there was a two-year gap.  My mum died in 2012 and I set up my blog in 2014.  It may be different for other people but I think I needed that barrier between this very raw emotion that I was experiencing – you are in the middle of a maelstrom of emotion – and it probably wouldn’t have been great to try to write about it then.  But with a little bit of distance you can begin to gain a bit of perspective, you can start to extrapolate and think what actually was going on at the time.  A lot of people who are caring for relatives say that they can’t really see beyond the next hour or two – that’s the way it goes when you’re caring for people.  With a bit of distance, I was able to write, and the two things – being a trained journalist and having this real passion because I had been through so much – came together and this connected with people.

SUE: Do you think there’s been some progress, that things may have become better?

PIPPA:  Yes, it’s very interesting because I realised that I was an ingenue to all of this. I entered the scene when I set up my blog – which wasn’t intended to be all about dementia by the way, it was just that it quickly became apparent that people wanted to read about dementia – I was always well aware that I had stumbled into this world and others had been in it, through social care or whatever, for twenty or thirty years, for their whole career.  Whereas I was an upstart who had really only started to write about the subject because of my mum.  So I would ask people if they agreed that there seemed to be a shift going on in the whole social care around dementia.  And they did.    That was 2014.  In 2013 the first dementia summit was held in London and there was the whole dementia friends programme.  A lot of people feel that this is a bit tokenistic but these are important movements and it takes a long time to achieve social change.  Then there is the soft power of culture – suddenly virtually every radio and TV programme had a dementia storyline, often very well done and properly researched.  So I saw that things were changing all around me, as well as in dementia care itself, with the sort of things that were being done.  As soon as I realised this I made it my job to seek out these positive stories.  People would often ask me whether it wasn’t depressing writing and talking about dementia and I would tell them it wasn’t – that actually it can be very inspirational and humbling to learn about what people are doing.  Often individuals who have been personally affected by dementia in some way decide to set up charities or social enterprises to make life better for those with the condition and their families.  I saw that a lot was being done and a lot of progress has been made in the last few years – very late in the day – but it’s being made.

SUE: You’ve got a lot to talk about.  You’re going to do some more podcasts.  Could you touch on some of the areas that you want to develop and talk about in future.

PIPPA: Yes, anyone who knows me in the dementia sector will not be surprised to know that the next thing I’m going to talk about is a great passion of mine and that is the great power of music to connect with people even when they are in the very advanced stages of dementia.  Again, there is a personal story involving me and my mum that I will talk about.  But I knew nothing about the power of music for those with dementia when this poignant experience occurred with me and mum.  But I do now and there are neurological reasons for that, which I shall talk about.   Also, there’s a campaign that I am still pursuing, which is to get the old BBC radio programme, Singing Together (which was for schoolchildren), put back on the airwaves, this time for older people and those with dementia – or for anybody.  The whole joy is that it could be for anybody, but I think it would be hugely beneficial for older people who are often lonely and for people with dementia.  

SUE: With that passion and that determination I think there are great things to talk about there.  Thank you so much Pippa.

PIPPA: Thank you Sue – it’s been great.

Line of Duty’s Vicky McClure presents Our Dementia Choir on BBC1. Credit: BBC/Curve Media

At one point in BBC 1’s Our Dementia Choir, the wife of 67-year-old Chris, who is living with the condition, says to Line of Duty’s Vicky McClure, “What you’ve given Chris is unbelievable”.

And it is.  For Chris’s rare type of frontal temporal dementia affects his behaviour more than his memory, making him unpredictable, uninhibited and unable to express his emotions.   He and his wife both worked full time and then – “Wham bam!” as Jane puts it – because of Chris’s condition they are forced together 24:7.

“It’s like your dream come true,” Chris chips in.  Jane lets out an instinctive, contradictory expletive and in an instant we see behind the veil of normality to a world – Jane’s world – in which days run into nights because Chris doesn’t always sleep.  It’s life with dementia in all its more-than-difficult, sleep-deprived reality.

Yet – and here’s the magical, unbelievable bit – after several weeks in a choir consisting entirely of others who, like him, have dementia, Chris is able to express emotion; he cries as he sings the song they’re rehearsing.  When Jane asks why, Chris says it’s because the words mean so much to him.

I was lucky enough to have a sneak preview of the two-part documentary and it’s compelling viewing – poignant, yet uplifting too.  Testament to the fact that there is life after a dementia diagnosis.

If you’re not familiar with the Beatle’s ballad, In My Life, do look it up.  Its lyrics are all about not being here anymore, about forgetting things and people – about enduring love.  Jane reveals that she and Chris stood in the kitchen in floods of tears, saying how much they were going to miss each other.  It was a moment of sadness, but also of connection; proof, if any more were needed, of music’s extraordinary powers for those with dementia.

McClure puts it better than I could.

“In some ways it wasn’t all sad, it was a lovely feeling.  To be able to cry with your partner and have a moment when you’re both on exactly the same page and you can be there – that’s why we’re doing this”.

McClure has boundless empathy & is the perfect presenter for Our Dementia Choir. Credit: BBC/Curve Media

McClure, unlike her scarily emotionless onscreen persona DI Kate Fleming, has boundless empathy and turns out to be the perfect presenter for an informative, sensitive, honest – but above all profoundly moving – programme about a group of individuals living with dementia who come together to sing.    She saw how music helped her adored Nana Iris (or Nona as she calls her) by “changing her mood, calming her down and, for a while, bringing us back the old Nona”.

Of course McClure is saying – albeit with the full force of the BBC behind her – what so many of us in the dementia sector have been saying for years.  That music really does help.  And she doesn’t just say it, she teams up with scientists exploring pioneering techniques to reveal how music can restore a brain damaged by the condition.

Sebastian Crutch is professor of neuropsychology at the Dementia Research Centre, University College London.  He calls music the “special ingredient” for those with the condition – and, needless to say, he and his expert medical colleagues are delighted with the findings of their ground-breaking experiments involving the dementia choir.

To be honest, while scientific evidence is necessary and invaluable, the truth is there for all of us to see when we watch videos such as Alive Inside, showing how music radically improves the lives of people in even the most advanced stages of dementia.

I unwittingly tapped into this potent force when I switched on the radio so that my late mum (who lived with dementia for her last decade) could listen to the traditional Christmas Eve Service of Nine Lessons and Carols from King’s College, Cambridge.  Mum had been sleeping in her nursing home bed for several weeks – then, as the chorister sang the opening bars of Once in Royal David’s City, she opened her eyes.  It was all she did, but it was enough.  A connection had been made; and this knowledge was of immense comfort to me when, the following day, mum died just moments before I arrived (I later wrote about it in The Telegraph.)

It’s one of the many reasons why I’m campaigning for the BBC to take up soprano Lesley Garrett’s brilliant idea for them to reintroduce their old radio programme, Singing Together, which I remember from my schooldays, this time for older people and those with dementia.  Given that, scandalously, just 5 percent of care homes have access to quality music therapy – the reintroduction of Singing Together would, at a stroke – or at the push of a radio button – provide thousands of people with life-enhancing benefits they can otherwise never enjoy.

Unlike me, or probably many of you reading this, the majority of those watching Our Dementia Choir will be unaware of music’s potent force.  This will change after they’ve witnessed its effects on Chris and Jane, or other choir members such as 91-year-old Eileen who has advanced Alzheimer’s disease.  After a few minutes singing She’ll Be Coming Round the Mountain with music therapist Chris Wilson, Eileen becomes animated and talks and moves about far more.  She comes alive – there’s no better way to put it.

On the night of the performance in front of a 2,000 strong audience at Nottingham’s Royal Concert Hall there’s not a dry eye in the house.  Choking back emotion, McClure says she’s never felt a room filled with such love.  She closes the programme with a tribute to her Nona.

“This is her.  This is why I’m here – so she’s having a real legacy and I’m proud of her for that”.

I know just how Vicky feels.  It’s because of my proud, flame-haired mum that I’m sitting here now, tapping out my dementia blog, tears sliding down my cheeks.

Musical director Mark De-Lisser conducts Our Dementia Choir. Credit: BBC/Curve Media